Psychiatry and the Lucifer Effect - Part 2 - In The Devil's Den

 Understanding how Good Psychiatrists and Mental Health Workers turn Bad   


Part 2:   In the Liar of Lucifer: The Beast at Work

A Cure for your Disease

Herein your heroic investigator stepped into the liar of the beast to get a inside view of how the system works. I went to a meeting of consumers where the public was also invited to learn about Community Treatment Orders (CTO's).  I went in a mode of being non-critical because I wanted to absorb as much of what was there as possible.
The person giving the talk was newly appointed as a regional director in charge of managing CTO's over a large area. It was part of a newly created governmental health aggressive expansion program to extend their area of control. This was a beginning step into many areas of mental health and public life with the promise of more to come.
At this meeting mostly of of consumers, mainly the presenter's  purpose was to let the consumers know about CTO's and threaten them with the possibilities if they should go off their meds. And near the end, threaten them she did, quite openly but with a soothing addendum something like they looked like a fine bunch of folks that didn't look like they were going to need that.

Essential Points Discussed

It only takes one psychiatrist and one MD to give someone a diagnosis, so you don't need two psychiatrists  (she smiled when she told me that).  She admitted difficulty in  getting  effective checks to ensure objectivity and safeguard  colleagues rubber stamping each other since they always basically live in the same area - so a single ordinary physician with a Psychiatrist friend could probably get a person sent up.

Nobody with a 'diagnosis' gets out of the hospital (say from emergency intake) unless compliance has been achieved  and they are on their meds.

Out-patients have to report to workers or their psychiatrists once a month or whatever . If it is determined they are not taking their meds, a CTO will be ordered for them. The police will search for them and take them to the hospital.

Some meds are given by injection which lasts long term. This helps to ensure they will remain medicated.

At one point she mentioned a lawyer being present at the medication reviews for renewal which I found puzzling. It turned out the lawyer was there to protect the CTO people, the commission etc,  not for the consumer. That's a very frightening array of power lined up against ordinary citizens especially if they have no family or no money to protect themselves..

I asked questions concerned that diagnosing and CTO's would reach it's arm into unexplored areas of society such as the courts, prisons and just ordinary community life medicating just common criminals or social misfits and the rebellious. etc.. She actually misread me, and replied something like yeah it as a pity they haven't covered those areas yet but they probably would eventually get around to it.

At one point she said something about the need to extend the  program to impose forced drugging into society with some phrase such as  as  'we can't have people sleeping in underpasses' (and going crazy?)  I myself don't know much about homeless people and the number of mentally ill on the streets so  I tried to extend the conversation about this  and she responded by staring at me blankly. I then realized then that 'homeless people under 'underpasses ' was just rhetoric she had never in  fact spent any thought or concern about homeless mentally ill people in our cities.

So I asked about children. Apparently the schools themselves phone the mental health center to call in authorities.  This was a new concept to me ie  the idea of a mental health center. In my era there were psychiatric hospitals and hospitals with psych wards, that's all I ever knew about. It seems not only is there such a thing which is now very complex but parents or any social  authority can all in for aggressive intervention from this government agency. Ok! So there is a Ministry of Bio-Love. I didn't know that.

During the discussion of children she said had just dealt with a child, six or seven, given a diagnosis of schizophrenia and put on anti-psychotic medications. She added how 'tragic' it was seemingly oblivious to the monstrosity of that action of force medicating children on anti-psychotics.

The presenter lied or was deceitful several more times in response to honest questions from the others. I didn't take notes and I was dealing with something else so I just noted mentally  in passing just as: "ah! - deceits". Taking notes in these situations I have found out is can be regarded with suspicion and limit the interaction.
When she was asked straightforward for a definition of what mental illness was  and what schizophrenia was she fudged saying something "Well we all have problems, even I have problems". Hmm.. I wonder if she thinks she, herself has an incurable brain disease. Probably not - but I think for certain this was her opinion of those sitting before her.
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 During course of the discussion,  one valiant consumer made several complaints. To  start with when she had come there, she had said that her social worker 'told her to go to this meeting' and that is why she was there. She later complained  that the 'meds don't work' and asked some penetrating questions especially as to why some other members of her family were going to some other  'educational'  group. She was asking 'what's it to them?"  - quite rightly she understood that they were being indoctrinated in order to control her.  That is another consumers program elesewhere - family members can take a 2-6 week  'course' in which they are indoctrinated in  the brain disease  model, ' how 'nothing is their fault' ( no matter who they are nor how abusive or dysfunctional they are) and the importance of getting their 'loved ones' to take meds. The course book, the information in it  and the course was created and financed by...guess who .... yes!  our old friends in PharmaCorp! I noted how this person was lied to and obfuscated in a couple of ways. Finally, the issues were deferred,  The meds argument 'would be taken up with her doctor'  and the other disputes taken up ''elsewhere'. The presenter was in her role as an enforcer, it was quite interesting.

By the time I twigged that this was  important and I could benefit from getting a private interview with  that person , they were gone before I could get a contact number. I admired her spunk in the defiance of authority-  the spirit of the people is not dead!  This problem for myself with approaching an investigation with a compliant attitude in avoiding conflict is that that it slows me down on my thinking feet.

During the process and as I reflected post-mortem , the presenter did not share experience not encourage the consumers to do so. I realized this as I saw sharings being cut off or interrupted. Only my efforts broke this somewhat. It makes sense -  a long term enforcer would have no interest in this and if a person regards the  brains of others as fixed or crippled then it doesn't mean anything - sharing is only for growth.

Also several times she answered my questions directly referring to 'my doctor' and 'my medications'. Not to tout my own horn too much, but I am quite alert  bright, physically fit _ I don't see how any experienced person would be in communication with me for over an hour and think I was on anti-psychotics. I've been in dozens of rooms for decades and can easily sort out who is who. It's scary but that is the way it works. If you are in the role , you are the role and you will be the role after enough time. I've had that last experience as well. This too is the Lucifer effect.

During and after I felt horrified. I thought these things like forced drugging of  kids etc happened up in Alaska somewhere. I certainly got wised up.

Adversarial Assistance - 'For Your Own Good'

As I encouraged the presenter to  share something of her background I realize she was the perfect candidate for this work which needed a  Gestapo-like confident and ruthless enforcer. (I certainly felt the image of   'Ilsa! She-wolf of the SS' was quite appropriate)  She said she had been a psychiatric nurse for a long while and had done much 'dirty work'... meaning I suppose doing unpleasant things in coercing patients that her superiors would rather not be involved in. She spent years in an aggressive role conducting intervention with patients and certainly became a product of the Lucifer effect.
The job, the previous role she played,  made her what she is and the people that hired her at the top, they know that, they know what they are doing in selecting the right person for the new job. A person with that kind of background can never know the consequences of that they are doing in terms of alternative healing methods , everything they  have seen has re-reinforced the validity of their actions. Once the adversarial perspective has been set towards control it doesn't change.
An adversarial aggressive system has been created and set in motion. It's an independent self-fueled monster. Don't get in it's way, is all I can say. The world of One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is even more true today than ever.

Psychiatry and the Lucifer Effect - Part 1

 Understanding how Good Psychiatrists and Mental Health Workers turn Bad   



Lucifer in the Garden of Psychotropics

Here I am applying Philip Zimbardo's ideas to the mental health industry and borrowing his terminology. Philip Zimbardo did the famous Stanford prison experiment. In that experiment in a mock prison  he discovered that simply putting people in a role and giving them power or dis-empowering them, intensely and immediately  changed their personality and attitudes. By 'bad' here I mean how the attitude and ideas towards treatment and therapy become anti-therapeutic and destructive to well being by people being placed in the term roles of policing behaviour where the desire to control replaces the understanding of healing.



  There are two distinct approaches to treating the mentally and/or emotionally ill. One is to control them , the other is to facilitate them to health, healing and cure. Control in one sense is not 'bad', often there is no choice but to intervene, however  there is a wide choice of how the control is done or how much of it is done. The choice is often lost on those who are under the adversarial strain of conflict with patients. Control of process here does not mean control of result. A person can be restrained or put in confinement yet facilitated to health. Similarity a person can be in psychotherapy but if the psychotherapist is trying to manipulate a result it is control and not facilitation.

Facilitation means to allow growth, to guide but to allow the afflicted person to naturally choose their path. Control means to try to control the result - to objectify the person.   

 For many workers their job description is control. For those workers who are fed the lie that their clients or consumers have a brain disease everything to them seems to verify this by the nature of their policing duties. They never have much chance to experience the patient as a full human being. Psychotropic drugs in fact make eliminate growth possibility wherein they would see that the patient's functioning is  indeed responsive to experiential intervention.  The constant environment of hospitals and social work settings, dealing with violent, irrational and difficult people having goals set by authorities not  in presence, quickly predominates the attitudes and restricts methods of explorations. The duties and responsibilities of community workers and hospital psychiatrists are to their bosses in the system and not the patient. All 'treatment' is thus guided by politics. In the difficulty of dealing with control all types of workers have no time to reflect and consider alternative courses of action Their attitudes become heavily colored with a one slanted approach - indeed for the most part  they never even realize there is an alternative or dare to challenge any accepted dogma..

How to create 'Defiant Resistance Disorder''

Fundamentally with concern to most psychiatrists , this is why they sneer art the mere suggestion of psychotherapy being able to treat any difficult mental illnesses They are used to applying  force and persuasion in an interventionist sense with the uncooperative. As what they try to do, (as with psychotropics) is fundamentally destructive to the human psyche, naturally they experience many un-cooperative patients and thus they react in upping the vigor of their force and persuasion and they reinforce their notions of needing to control behaviour.  They often create the resistance and the 'illness' itself.. The Zimbardo observation was that the process worked on both parties. Many times in my researches out in the community when people assume I am an active consumer instead of an ex-consumer - I find myself experiencing the 'Zimbardo Victim Effect' , I experience a worker as oppressive and bullying and I find myself cast in the role of 'dysfunctional consumer'.

The psychiatrist ends up not being able to think beyond a sense of emergency nor even wants to even when there is no emergency. In the moment of deciding another's life, a person becomes momentarily 'God'.  They think to decide what is best for another person, what emotions and behaviors do they want them to have. Most psychiatrists can  never let go of this -  even in ordinary psychotherapy (Axis IV)  their object is to get their clients to feel think and behave according to the psychiatrist's standards or the standards of yet another party. If they happen to be in synch with a particular subculture then they have 'success' with that subculture and they consider the ones who do not fit their expectations as 'failures.

Psychiatry thus refers to 'Talk Therapy' instead of the more powerful and useful term 'Emotional Therapy' because they rarely engage in the encouragement and facilitation of emotion. Emotion, negativity and madness is thus a result they wish to eliminate or control.
 The fundamental truth of psychology is that positive emotions and states can only result if negative emotions and states of mind are facilitated rather than discouraged.  The person works through them and is healed.The number and type of people totally excluded from this process has yet to be determined because of the adversarial bent of mainstream psychiatry to treat illness as an 'enemy'.  To facilitate emotion or self direction in patients means the helper must abandon trying to control the outcome and guide the process. You don't know what the patient will choose but you help them choose.

The use of the DSM and the Axis I and II diagnosis means that psychiatrists under the Lucifer Effect will regard  and classify all such people, regardless of situation, regardless of  in crisis or in stable environment,  as  totally non-self-responsible or a thing to be managed , devoid of an internal engine of self-direction always, at every moment of their lives, for the rest of their lives.  And they do this on faith, without proof without prejudicial investigation.

There has been no exploration of the inner states of such people because of the adversarial nature of the mainstream. But for those who go off the mainstream, they always seem to find a way to communicate with the 'untreatable' and heal them. Those healers can find meaning and contact in every moment.  The truth really seems the opposite of what adversarial treatment maintains ie that those who are 'untreatable' are the rarities not the commonplace. The adversarial helper in advance decides a model of health expectations, what behaviour and feelings they like and don't like.  The model is often looks quite sterile and conformist. The model itself prevents healing because often the healing processes are anathema to the model.

For example,  transformative self-actualizations 'accept your emotional pain' or even 'enjoy your negative feelings' -   or giving patients tools for emotional combat through bio-energetics - these basic healing methods are incomprehensible to those who see the both the cure process and the cured cured person as an enemy.
Diagnosis and treatment with psychotropic drugs is the end of life and the end of hope for many psychiatric victims. They are a success for everyone but themselves where inside everything has been numbed. How many millions now worldwide have been sentenced with chemical lobotomies  to a permanent half-life, the lives of ghosts, we don't know yet.  We do know from all the narratives of those who somehow escaped he system that they must be legion because many of  those who escape the system report back being healed. And it is only from those who escape the system that we find the cured, the healed, the reconstructed and the reintegrated.

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Another factor is deceit and it's friend condescension. Psychic police rarely are fully honest. Deceit is a control method. They rarely state their hidden assumptions such as 'You are incurable', or 'anger is' bad' for you - 'it is of no use and harmful to explore your past and your  inner life' because you don't have the capacity'  . As such that which is hidden and not in the open is not subject to open analysis, inspection and challenge.  What is hidden, rots and festers and creates dysfunction.
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From Effect to Full Compliance

The brain disease model is such a simple formula for social control - so easily grabbed to make life easier for controllers   - the psychic history and psychic processes of any persons can be completely disregarded. . It's truly amazing how these two sets of groups- community workers (psychologists. social workers administrators therapists) and psychiatrists (with psychiatric nurses etc) can be so totally blind to the real nature of their patients and so totally ignorant of genuine healing processes.  They become perfect receptors for any kind of indoctrinated fascist ideology. They have truly 'fallen'.

                                               

Wannsee Conference II - The DSM-5

                           The Final Solution to the Psychiatric Problem

 The American Psychiatric Association is now meeting and arguing drafting the new DSM-5.

"The 162-member group charged with revising the DSM-5 could make further changes in the next several months since the final draft is not due to the printer until the end of the year, with publication scheduled for May of next year".

My analogy is that this is similar to the Nazi Wannsee conference of 1942  in which they discussed ways and means to exterminate the Jewish People and many other groups as well. However, I use the world fascist in the correct meaning of the term. Essentially we are watching fascists argue with each other over the best way to exterminate the emotional lives of those who are unacceptable to the standards of the Emotionally Cleansed Pure Mind Race. - a form of psychotropic eugenics.  The emotionally cleansed mind they seem to admire is something like the Spock-like model of emotional sterility. Essentially the business elite along with their minions in APA finds the emotional dimension of humanity to be rather troublesome and feel that it would b better if it was more or less cut out of the human psyche.

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The AMA is basically a hatchet organization for the Pharmaceutical and Governmental Control Power Cartel. The Pharmaceutical companies have corrupted the medical organizations and governments of both Canada and America. Through their interlocked business interests and wealth they have virtual complete control of the mainstream media and the propaganda system.

 The DSM is used worldwide and it's purpose is  to extend the power and scope of the use of psychotropic (chemical lobotomizing) drugs on the population. All governments have now passed forced drugging legislation. Any diagnosis of any individual no matter how achieved means  forced drugging with mind crippling psychotropics for life - no chance of parole - no chance to heal in any way.

   Some of the members of the APA think the current expansion is too much , others want to speed it up but in any case each new revision increase the power and scope of the whole cartel . The details of the arguments are really unimportant they are all  medical-social elitist  fascists united by a common purpose  - to use psychotropics on the population as a whole. The net of the DSM will be certain to cover more and more of the 'ordinary'  population with each new revision. It is a welcome tool for the business and political fascists (the .01 percent ) that are now ruling North America to solve problems of social order and civil disobedience in a low cost way and also not only to eliminate health costs for the mentally ill but to make the population pay to disempower themselves.

This has also the purpose of providing social and political control over troublemakers, creating a multi-billion dollar industry and ending all costly and troublesome attempts to heal the mentally ill. Psychotropics not only have the benefits of sedating (crippling) the seriously emotionally ill but also ensure they can never heal as they prevent basic pscyological processes from happening. .

The New trends in the DSM is to specifically target: 

1. Children
2 The Socially Marginal
3 Those with lesser emotional troubles
4 Thought Criminals (non conformists)
5. Political dissents (IE opponents of the Business cartel)
The idea is much like the idea of the Nazi that is to
achieving emotional purity of the population - a bland gullible, manipulable, forced smiley face emotionally sterilized and vacant population

- a perfect workforce and servant population for the Business Elite. 

 

 

Here are some of the new categories up for 'laughs' to achieve these aims: 

• 'attenuated psychosis risk' - for those who 'might' become mentally ill.

• 'mixed anxiety depressive disorder”' for those who might find the challenges of everyday life a little stressful.
• 'Oppositional defiant disorder" - for the usual suspects.

The fact that this organization of fascists  might 'drop' some of the new classifications is no reason to celebrate - Big Pharma will still be alive  and thriving.  This is  a war of a corporate entity in runaway  capitalism  upon the population. The corporate legal identity is immortal, they have money, power, the propaganda system, ownership of the educational system, corruption of the governments, the medical system  and time... lots of time.

  

 

 The following is a voice of reason that describes the situation quite well in a nutshell.. To add to it, not only are the medications toxic, they prevent the individuals from  becoming cured or healed and are crippling to the point which they can be called lobotomizing.   

 Lucy Johnstone, a consultant clinical psychologist for the Cwm Taf Health Board in Wales agreed: "(The DSM) is wrong in principle, based as it is on redefining a whole range of understandable reactions to life circumstances as 'illnesses', which then become a target for toxic medications heavily promoted by the pharmaceutical industry," she said"

 My opinion is there is nothing anyone or any organization can do about this . The power of the current genuine fascists is too well entrenched. I think we have entered the worst dark age of history approaching absolutism due to the power of technology. This is a new Holocaust, one with no apparent end in sight.  The only thing we can do is that some individuals or small groups might be able to save themselves and collect and  keep some of the knowledge alive til the time will come that once again civilization will be restored.

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Here is some further in formation on the scope of Pharma activities in North America.

 Webpage about medicating Children

 

You have to hand it to Big Pharma - they have won the war on drugs

- They have succeeded in placing 25% of a generation to be on their medications. American children are on everything from anxiety medication, to blood pressure medication.... and they

are supposed to be the ones saying "NO" to drugs!
It's absolutely appalling to me - because children are supposed to be full of boundless energy and vigor. They, instead, have been made sick... in more ways than one.
I recall when my then homeschooled daughter went to a New Year's Eve sleepover at her public schooled friends house a few years ago. Every girl there was on medication - except for of course, my daughter. She could not understand why these kids were taking anti-anxiety meds or drugs to help them "cope" with being a teenager. They took drugs to help them sleep, to help them focus, to help them have an appetite, to help them "feel good". And the list goes on. And unfortunately, these medications follow these kids into college and beyond.
The fact that there are lines to the school nurse's office every morning with kids waiting for their doses is pretty scary indeed.
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The truth is that Big Pharma manufactures drugs for manufactured ailments.

It is HUGE money for them.

They have medicalized childhood.

If your child argues with you - they have an "oppositional disorder".

If they are excited or energetic - they need to be calmed down.

If they are picky eaters - they need to have their appetite stimulated.

If they don't get enough exercise - they need diet pills and heart medication.

If they cannot concentrate - they need "speed".

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 Webpage about the Pharmaceutical-Psychiatric Deception.

8 Fun Facts

1. The widely advertised idea that mental illness is caused by a “chemical imbalance” in the brain is nothing   more than an unproven theory. there is no diagnostic test which shows such an imbalance exists. this is pure marketing.
2. Psychiatric drugs do not, as they claim, correct any chemical imbalance. the popular psychiatric drug ritalin is nothing more than a form of speed, highly addictive and dangerous.
3. Psychiatry’s bible, the diagnostic and statistical manual, had 112 mental disorders outlined in it’s 1st issue. it’s latest issue now describes 374.
4. Homosexuality was formerly listed as a mental illness in the DSM. It was deleted when the idea became politically incorrect.


5. Since there is no test to diagnose such “diseases” they are purely subjective.
6. New mental disorders are added to the DSM by nothing more than a vote.
7. According the the american psychiatric association 19 of the 27 psychiatrists on the DSM’s top voting panel have financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry.
8. Psychiatric drugs pull in 80 billion dollars a year for the pharmaceutical industry.

How Not to Cure Schizophrenia

The title of this post applies to most of those mental illnesses that have been classified and labeled as incurable brain diseases by the Pharmaceutical  dominated contemporary mental health establishment.

How not to treat the mentally ill? Don't treat them as subhumans or objects. Stop thinking of 'treatment' as 'control'. Don't try to treat only the secondary ('positive') symptoms and ignore the consciousness, the personality structure and emotional functioning of human beings.

How to treat them? First allow them to be ill as much as possible (ie do not stop the human process) while at the same time  facilitate them to full emotional functioning and guiding them to well being.

This is the point where the psychiatrist control freaks throw up their hands and say that leaves them with nothing. The truth is there are very few human beings that stay out of contact with reality and the environment forever due to mental illness, if any.  Roll your shirt-sleeves up, find those contact points and get to work! You've all got a long way to go, all  you in the contemporary mental health system , a lot of knowledge to catch up on, it's time to get started on finding out what you can do by listening to those who are there, and who have been there, instead of  laboring on what you think you can't do.
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Generally the mental health establishment's attitude  in the Western World towards people with serious mental illnesses is extremely destructive and life numbing, if not mind ending.
At the core is a set of destructive values and attitudes which infest out culture at every level and  are basically anti-human and anti-human growth. To add to that the Western business elite has obtained fascist monopolist control over the media, the medical profession and the political system and profits financially from propagandizing destructive control-as-treatment methods.
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I have several paradigms to present which I believe  turn upside down the common ideas of what 'mental health' is supposed to be. I call these things growth processes. I believe what the public thinks is not natural , it is the result of deliberate indoctrination by the Pharma directed mental health establishment. I am not talking here about medication - I am talking about destructive ideas which prevent personality growth. Much of what passes for  'therapy is actually 'anti-therapy' - it actually prevents people from growth and supports them to remain the same and thus marketable objects for lifelong medication.
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So here is is a comment from the internet  that inspired the content of this post. It's a typical attitude and perhaps the attitude of modern psychiatry - a perfect representation of the state of affairs.  

 "And yes, I tried a variety of techniques from a wide variety of psychotherapy schools and very much wanted them to work. Instead, I found that delusions and hallucinations were completely impervious to any intervention I tried."  David Allen MD

This comment sounds completely disingenuous for a variety of reasons. He is saying: "Gee, Crazy is Crazy! Who can control such crazy!!!??

In the first place, in the example the  positive symptoms he presented are not so simplistic, they are not always present - the case of having voices and being directly aware of them in the here and now - is quite rare etc. etc. The idea of trying to totally eliminate something that is not present at that moment because the patient is suddenly focused is a little futile.. This discussion could be very extensive.
But more importantly are his two ideas which are not the realm of psychotherapy and pre-determine "failure".


1. The idea to suppress symptoms rather than treat the person or even what life problems the patient is concerned about.
2. The wish to control the behaviour of the person.

When positive symptoms occur, the patient consciousness is shattering - they only occur as the patient loses focus - there is a balance between focus and symptoms. CBT Therapy understands this and works on this.
Here is a sample idea on youtube.
(CBT for auditory hallucinations)
 There are other ways to work on this but the major point is you work on this -you do not destroy the balance the,the natural inner interplay of forces (as much as possible  - I do not rule out meds completely with codicils of ongoing real treatment and allowing enough of the symptoms to occur so that the patient can transform through them.).
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In the first step the most important thing is not to stop , say the 'voices', it is to help the patient understand what they are, why they are and to accept them. And for this the psychiatrist will possibly have to get the narrative of people who have been there.  In everything we are, we have both what we are or some event, and how we feel about it. I this case the patients' feeling about the voices can be changed , to be more peaceful by understanding and accepting what is happening.
This is just a start of what can be done.

EG: Here is   Ira Steinman's talk on 'Treating the Untreatable' about his success with schizophrenia. 

Myself  I think that caring about the positive symptoms is not so important. addressing the emotional sate of the person and finding ways to facilitate and help there are actually more important  - because that is the source.
To the contemporary psychiatrist - they don't  know what the heck I am talking about - they have decided everything that goes on in the skull is a brain disease - in my experience - my world, the world that they did discount did have substance , meaning, purpose and goals - I was in fact a person struggling to function and I knew it . The truth is that if any of them will look, they will find something else and something there.  When schizophrenics refuse medications they do so because they they  know intrinsically  it is not solving the problems which on the one hand they cannot understand yet they recognize them as an experiential struggle  not something chemical or abstract. They feel the solution is in the real world and many of the ones that are allowed to struggle somehow , do find those solutions.


At course in the symptom-control methods the control psychiatrists will  find themselves at war with any person over these things and their  success will only be determinate upon how much unequal force they can bring on their  side in controlling the physical and psychological environment. They can however. have "success" though this is more commonly known as "brain-washing" rather than psychotherapy.

Dr. Allan (I've read his book - and felt quite revulsed)  and many others are in fact trying to do the same thing with psychotherapy as they would do with drugs: ie control the behaviour of their  patients to their own requirements and expectations.

You can take the psychiatrists out of the meds but it seems you can't take the medicate-them-up mentality out of the psychiatrists. :)

For all those misguided therapists and psychiatrists out there that are currently in existence (and they are legion)  behaviour control is NOT psychotherapy.The number one problem in our contemporary culture is that culturally the mainstream has learned that anger and negative emotions are 'bad' . Most therapy is actually 'anti-therapy' they cannot possible cure anyone or facilitate anyone to personality reconstructing because those therapies are repressive. - they seek to repress various forms of human emotion.
Working with the extremely mentally ill is working with negative emotions. Patients only come to health by facilitating their negative emotions and helping them to use and be resilient with those emotions. If therapists can't feel fully comfortable in the world of nitty-gritty negative emotions and can't be fully confrontative  and confident in emotional confrontation and prefer to be 'objective and uninvolved',  then get the heck out of this aspect of therapy - you don't belong.   

If any psychiatrist or therapist  thinks anger is 'bad' and depression is something to avoid and be medicated away etc etc. then get the heck out of the therapy business  - you are emotionally dysfunctional  have no idea what you are doing. The more people use their emotions , celebrate them , accept them, (Yes! All emotions - the whole works) the healthier they are. Emotions are the human being, the more you love your emotions the more you love yourself.  What is external outside the human that the human reacts to emotionally are not the emotions themselves. I suggest those who are having trouble accepting loving their emotions, mediate on this concept. Emotions are the internal bridge to the outside world by which we can actualize ourselves and the fact is that the weller-than well are the ones who are extremely resilient because they have learned to accept and love their negative emotions.
   As a matter of fact, I would suggest a new category for the DSM-V - based on the emotional vacuity and barrenness of contemporary therapists and psychiatrists- call it  the 'Muzak Syndrome'. These people are extremely dangerous and they seek to impose their own level of dysfunction and barrenness upon the population. That is exactly what they are achieving - a nation of force medicated cyborgs all slotted for ankle-injecting monitoring bracelets.
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Intervention has it's uses -- you can intervene perhaps to convince a person they have a problem , but if you cannot do that, you cannot practice psychotherapy with them. Interventions within psychotherapy are only effective if you are working to help with the problems as experienced and expressed by the patient and you have their co-operation.

Intervention in any kind of madness, for ages has been to primarily give the afflicted a safe environment to be mad within and to help guide them from that point. Their symptoms are usually and primarily part of a defense mechanism they are using to protect themselves. It is actually hostile and counter-productive to try to control their symptoms.   
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I can pretty much guarantee that the MD above did not and has not tried many approaches and techniques (because I know of many) and further has not wanted to --he is  unaware or uncaring of how his own culture determines his actions and thoughts - I would say he and the others cloned in his occupation have had their attitudes determined through mainstream anti-growth attitudes before they even started practice.
I doubt is any of these people  never used bio-energetics, confrontative techniques, allowed themselves to be emotionally involved, facilitated or accepted strong emotions in their patients. These are some of my criteria by which I  have tried to measure contemporary psychotherapy to that which cured me 35 years ago. So far my predominant conclusion is that if the real deal psychotherapy is not dead then it is lying wounded or in hiding somewhere.

   Anon's comment  reaction to  the MD's  statement is is pretty much on the mark

Your conclusion that delusions and hallucinations were completely impervious to any intervention you tried is a common one. I appreciate it is difficult to acknowledge the ineffectiveness of the psychotherapist. I think it would be better to acknowledge that one is not effective in providing treatment, is not interested in treating this group, or cannot employ methods that work than to generalize the collective ineffectiveness of the psychotherapists to the conclusion that psychotherapy is ineffective in treating individuals who have been provided a schizophrenic label."

In other words - speak for yourself - you didn't want  to facilitate personality change and you got what you wanted. You determined the result by what you wanted. So give that up , get out of that aspect of the field, abstain with 'no comment'  and leave it to someone what wants to get something done, because it's the 'wanting' that does it..

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The following is based upon my own  experience and the observation of many others like myself.  I'm been there and now am here. I am perfectly willing to listen to anyone else's' experience, it may be true that I cannot extrapolate to everyone from myself. But if someone has 'theories' that are not based on the experiential narrative of Schizophrenics themselves then you need to take a long walk and think about things that are more suitable to your level of investigation - (like pondering how many brain cells there are on the head of a pin.)
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Every Schizophrenic's symptoms are fear-driven, the fear and terror is obvious, no one could  have possibly missed it, yet they all  probably discounted it. Fear and deep rooted anxiety is the mechanism of personality breakdown and is the motor that drives the manifestation of secondary positive symptoms. If you just take away that fear completely with medications you murder the person's personality. You cannot take away a person's' emotional involvement and expect other emotions to appear - you have killed the emotional engine. You've saved an near-empty body

It seems evident that in most cases of schizophrenia there is a problem feeling and expressing anger. It's the first place to look, the first place to explore. It's no surprise to me that a disempowered society with an overwhelming number of of media-manipulated, seemingly will-less victims of happy-face fascism, cannot smell the stink.
The conflict between fear and anger does appear in all the cases I have seen to be a basic driving engine of schizophrenia. Reality is so politically incorrect. Mother nature abhors a vacuum and also abhors vacuity.
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It totally doesn't matter if the person had an abusive childhood or is just chemically sensitive to anger expression if the person can transform this basic conflict in this living world.
Whatever transformations , not 'recovery' that have happened,they are not random flukes as the brain-disease model theorists would have the world believe - they happen because of real and actual process that occur in the inner-outer world of schizophrenics and it would behoove those brain specialists to go find out what happened to those people instead of looking at slides through a microscope and sacrificing one third of civilization for chemical experimentation.



 Facilitating the mentally to be angry and use their anger effectively? It almost seems too simple - and yet I just read an article by a psychiatrist that said anger is a 'bad' thing , is destructive and needs to be avoided. This attitude is an expression of emotional dysfunction - these people are incomplete themselves and needing therapy, they could never even cure a tobacco leaf let alone a human being  they don't even  know what a human being is. 
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Yes, it is that simple - no, not necessary the anger part - the part about the guardians of the national mental health - there have been no cures from the establishment ( but plenty outside of it) because the treatment and attitudes of the establishment is anti-growth and anti-cure.


Now this is a very difficult subject to encapsulate and there are all kinds of codicils but I have made an attempt to cast some light in the darkness. I will follow up with some more posts on the details of these things.

Workaround - Google-Blogspot Redirect Privacy Violations

Only the paranoid survive - Andy Grove

Ok , There are lots  of people out there hiding from discrimination and stigmatization. So long as no one knows vital information about you (like what country you are in!) it makes it difficult for anyone you know to recognize you and harm your life or for other stalkers to track you down.

Then you wake up one day and find out your years of investment in a seemingly secure and anonymous google 'blogspot' is totally blown. Google has exposed you! Everyone knows you are in country 'X', that alone gives them all kinds of information about you and it can be used to track you down. Once personal information goes out on the net , it can never be put back in the box.
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And it not just security, many other posters want to have anonymity for all kinds of reasons. Now they have to contend with all kinds of people who make assumptions about who they are and what they think based upon where they live. Many people don't want that.

The authorities can always find you if you are doing anything wrong - they can control the system, we are in someone else's' world here.  However, this is about social anonymity. Social anonymity can give people the ability to speak freely to the world especially if they don't have that freedom in their local community. Sometimes it's useful to be a crusader and put your name out there on the line , other times it's social suicide.
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 Social anonymity can give you the freedom to speak without getting a rock thrown thrown your window or getting fired from your job on some trumped up reason etc etc. I'm sure there are many more good reasons. 

The people who run the world's mass media and corporate conglomerates - hardly anyone knows who they are, let alone knows their countries of residence and addresses. They hire front people for all political and social purposes to propagandize their opinions. They hide behind a wall of wealth and misdirection. An example is the owners of the pharmaceutical companies who distribute their 'brain disease' propaganda to make megabucks selling drugs and destroying human beings..

It's hardly fair that the individuals must expose themselves to threat in order to have an opinion while the wealthy like the pharmaceutical companies deliver onslaughts of 'brain disease propaganda anonymously and sneakily  through their myriad propaganda organs. The puppeteers don't show themselves - anonymous counter-propaganda networks can help to level the playing field.


We are all getting hammered by a big technology machine. At first it seems to give freedom for free but we are being pushed into a choice-less  dependency on the machine and our lives subject to being smashed by the whims and machinations of the powerful. .  This recent violation of privacy is a small harbinger of things to come.

But maybe we can slow it down a bit.

I found some code and a way to restore your privacy or at least give you some obfuscation. It works for now. At least before the machine steamrolls over us all once again.

Ok so here's the 'secret' code - just a few simple changes to make in your blogger template and once again you are a 'com' or whatever you want - but you won't be 'you' and you'll be a another step away from 'them'. Go ahead throw a wrench into their privacy invasion system.



I put in in a wordpad file ===> FYIO which can be  downloaded, after all google has eyes, and we don't want to let the robobots use them, do we?

No Money, No Funny - is Biomed Death the only offering?

"Yes, one can get reimbursed for doing psychotherapy with patients with schizophrenia in the US." - David M. Allen

A little vague , sounds conditional, perhaps exceptional circumstances.
I'm researching to see if the basic person with any serious mental illness who has nothing, i.e. no money, no ability to work, no liaison with parents, can get be funded for anything other than lobotomized Biomed death in North America.

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If anyone knows anything on about the situation on health insurance and health services in the USA regarding this, please leave some information for me here.

The same goes for Canada- I don't even know the situation in Canada anymore. Maybe the new DSM standards since 1980 now prevent coverage for psychotherapy for the major clssifications. I'd like to know if anyone besides myself has had success with the system since 1980?

The only reason I was able to get psychotherapy and be cured of Schizophrenia pre-1980 was because the psychotherapist (also a psychiatrist and therefore an M.D. but only in a role to me as psychotherapist) was able to get reimbursed through the Government for basic charges and he waived the additional fees (that actually went to other senior psychotherapists in the Holocaust Org) for about three three years. That was often two groups a week plus the occasional weekend potboiler.

So that was a lot for free and which was otherwise obtainable and absolutely essential for anyone who would have been like myself. I had nothing , I lived in a rathole on social assistance, ate poorly and my life as victim of circumstances and the Government Mental Health System would have remained the same without the generosity of the Holocaust Psychotherapy.

So both effective psychotherapy methods and availability to the masses are needed to provide cures, health, teach the population a growth-oriented way of life and oppose emotionally dysfunctional ways of living. I am not sure if either exists anymore anywhere in North America. For all those that ask me for recommendations I still have no existing effective therapy verifiable that I can recommend and not a clue if anything can be funded.

That means that our entire continent and our civilization is under a dark cloud of emotional repression and cultivated ignorance and deceit to destroy our group mental health. And things can and probably will get worse.

For sure we know that our Governments and our civilization guarantees drug sedation and drug lobotomization as well as Electroshock and possibly a few other unpleasantries to all citizens afflicted with mental illness. Any idea of therapies offered are essentially drug compliance persuasion programs. This applies to all mental illness, the four major categories and even to those that are not mentally ill - as many stories are coming out now of others victims (such as those exposed to toxic poisoning) being swept up into the psychotropic mind numbing machine.

So I'm researching and would lie to know: Did anyone out there like myself, for any major mental illness:

1. Find effective curative psychotherapy and
2. How were the costs covered?

Thanks

War of the the Word Worlds - Psychology "Re-imagined"

The Recovery that is the Recovery is not the Recovery.
The Stigma that is the Stigma is not the Stigma.
The Psychotherapy that was The Psychotherapy is not this Psychotherapy.
.... The Mental Illness that was Illness is not Illness.

- Tao of Big Pharma


I've had two interesting discussions about current mental health terminology and the use of the word "recovery" with Jane Alexander here and with Ron Unger here and here.

Psychiatric Newspeak has had a long history, but there have been significant changes in the last 30 years. PharmaCorps with the development of new drugs have significantly increased their sales, power and their game-plan to sell and addict a significant portion of the population on psychiatric drugs. Currently, their target could mean 21 to 50 percent of our entire population, 21 percent being the official figure of those afflicted with mental illness, to some degree. To increase sales they hope to increase the number of people taking drugs and to keep them on the drugs for their lifetimes. Pharma-prop (drug propaganda) is a weapon in their arsenal of an aggressive sales campaign strategy in which they try to install not just word definitions but basic paradigms into their target sales market - the general population. If those paradigms are accepted by the general population and the authorities it makes it easy to sell and and enforce pharmaceutical compliance on the population.

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Simultaneously, there has been a small counter-Resistance movement, a guerrilla movement, as it were, loosely named the Alternative or Survivor Community which began in the 1980's. As the mainstream Biomed Industry became more abusive, repressive, totalitarian and destructive an alternative or counter-movement sprang up. They fundamentally recognized that Biomed Psychiatry:

"does not promote a culture in which people can improve and recover" and they set about defining and investigating standards and methods that assisted genuine recovery for all classes of mental illness..

This community has actually made significant progress in understanding mental illness in relation to the psycho-social environment and have made significant advances in understanding how to promote recovery or cure of mental illnesses through psycho-social intervention.
Most people in this group also reject the usage of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders which in effect functions as a prejudicial philosophy of physical inferiority justifying abuse comparable to the Racial Supremacists just in this case it is a philosophy of Genetic Supremacy justifying the maltreatment of at least one third of the human race.


Our language in the first place is always changing and evolving rapidly and in the second place is now doing so more rapidly due to the rise of the internet and increased its increased cross- cultural communication.
Adding to this is the Rise of the Psych-Machine, the Guerrilla Reformer Movement and an accelerated understanding of methods of psycho-social cures. Since the rise of the Survivor Movement and Internet communication in the 1980’s there have been great advances in understanding most mental illnesses as having psycho-social causations and and understanding of how inner work can and will facilitate full cures.

All this means our language is in a high rate of flux and conflict.
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Here are some examples of Re-Imaginings done by the Pharmaceutical Industry:

Recovery Re-imagined

"Only in “mental health” do people receive treatments for disorders they have already recovered from……." - Ron Unger

The recovery model of Big Pharma is not as cured or emotionally functional and independent persons but as people n permanently medicated on psychotropic drugs and following the Pharma social program.
The "recovered" person here has basically become functional by the suppression of their emotions and emotional symptoms. They are kept from having the pain and anguish they need in order to solve their problems and become fully human. In effect this is mostly drug lobotomization. It is very useful to produce a compliant victim-oriented passive "consumer"population for the empowerment of the interlocked and interrelated businesses of the Super-Rich.

Healthy Lifestyle - Re-Imagined

The Pharma social program is very important because it is an anti-growth way of living. Its' every recommendation is to prevent cure and natural growth of the personality in psycho-social interactions. They don't think it is enough to place people on meds to keep them there, they must also make sure they do not engage in curative activities.

Mental illnesses are cured through the exploration and acceptance of negative emotions. That's it in a nutshell. The idea of keeping patients away from certain kinds of stress and conflict guarantees they cannot recover.

Support Re-Imagined

What used to be support for genuine recovery for genuine personality change has become support for medicated states of being. Support Groups have become Drug Compliance Groups. Psychotherapists have become medication enforcers for the brain disease model.

Stigma Re-imagined

Pharma pretends to be fighting "stigma" in it's indoctrination programs, but in fact it is creating stigma by declaring a segment of the population as diseased and incurable. Pharma creates stigma by proclaiming patients are incurable - their definition sets consumers as a permanent blacklisted hopeless segments of the human race no longer part of the humanity with no entitlement to the same emotional functions and hopes and dreams that all humans used to have.
The anti-stigma campaigns are in fact pro-medication campaigns. They are selling the idea of the brain disease model, creating the problem, stigmatizing people with emotional problems and then selling the snake oil medications to "Comfort it" but not cure it - you will always need more.
And of course people will always need more suppressant - so long as the root problem is not solved and kept from being solved.

Mental Illness Re-imagined

The official literature in Government offices say all of the major mental illness are incurable! Of course this literature is un-cited and unsigned as it was obviously sponsored and ghost written by Pharmaceutical Companies. So mental illnesses are not "illness" at all, but bad "genetics" which separate one section of humanity from the rest . A section whose brains are completely different from the rest of the human race. This the ultimate racism, and the ultimate genocide.

The truth is probably more like brain chemistry and psycho-social behaviour are evolutionary related over generations and even over an individuals' lifetime. My own body chemistry and metabolism altered dramatically over a four month period when I was cured of my previous schizophrenic condition.

Psychotherapy Re-imagined


Effective psychotherapy is change-oriented and emotionally transformative. The new definition by Pharma is that it is "TALK" therapy (rather than emotional) so of course something that is "just talk" without emotional depth and orientation cannot cure. Their ideas of psychotherapy is "support-drug-treatment" psychotherapy. Typically groups are drug-compliance groups and (drug) consumers might see an individual "psychotherapist once a month to make sure they are still on their meds.
I actually heard one person say they complained to their "therapist" about his anxiety attacks and the therapist said she couldn't do anything about that sort of thing IE that was his problem not hers - just take the meds.

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Big Pharma has won the war, and they are destroying our civilization - there is no doubt about that. They have a multi-billion dollar money and propaganda machine and final ascendancy in all the media (including the internet) - the voice of reason, sanity and alternative is completely smothered and non-existent in the mainstream media. I have deduced this from many interactions with mainstream mental health programs and people.

Also of course, Pharma has dominated our governmental, educational, mental health and medical institutions with their money, lobbying, propaganda and influence.

However a few of us have survived and possibly will survive despite the wreckage they have done to both our civilization and our personal lives. What we can hope for is to keep the flame alive and offer the benefits of our experience to those who have somehow resisted or escaped the propaganda brainwashing of Big Pharma.

For all of us who have been cured or genuinely recovered they have made society a hostile environment for us by denying that we exist or can exist and by stigmatizing us as "must be incurable" and therefore cannot be cured and have not been cured. This is a unique kind of stigma - the stigma attached to those who have been cured of mental illness! For those like myself who made it, who reached for the brass ring and won, their problems really just began when they faced a society that did and does not accept their existence.


The survivor and community and recovery did not come into existence until after 1980. Since then may people have been using words like "recovery" without there being a standard definition. People assume the meaning, but for many the meaning is different. In fact there is no standard for these words, it is a new field.

Part of the trick of Pharma-prop is to get people to use words without examining their basic assumptions. This structures their own paradigms and bypasses or makes invisible alternative paradigms. Just casually drop the word "cure" in a conversation with a psych grad or undergrad or a mental health worker - it will usually stun them - it's not so much they disagree with the concept - this paradigm has just never entered their universe. I've actually had people laugh in my face out of surprised shock when I introduce myself using the word cured. Simply by stating the counter definitions it introduces a new paradigm to the minds of the listeners unexamined assumptions.

So is would would be helpful to realize when using all these psycho-words to realize that they don't mean the same thing to all people. Therefore, when using them it's best to define them to your audience - because if you don't you might not know they will be using another definition given to them by Big Pharma and in fact you will not be communicating effectively.
Simply by defining psychological terminology them you will introduce new paradigms to your audience and challenge the unspoken assumption of the Biomed Newspeak.


Our language is still evolving and is not yet set. There are a whirlwind of unexamined concepts and developing ideas for psycho-social curative treatments that still do not have a clear vocabulary. This has hitherto been an unexplored and unexamined sociology. I would encourage reformers to generate Neologisms and new terminology that will enter into the common acceptance of public consciousness and advance the understanding of what positive growth processes are and the relationship between psycho-social growth processes and mental illnesses.

Keep in mind that not only is this an evolving field but this is a language war against a powerful,ruthless and profiteering machine. The pharmaceutical companies use words in propaganda as weapons against humanity.

The mind is its own place, and in itself. Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven

Making Heaven of Hell necessitates, as a first step, challenging Pharma-Prop.